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		<title>BREAKING: Scott Rolen Will Not Attend Camp with the Reds</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Engbloom</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, the days of Scott Rolen in a Reds uniform might be over. This according to the Reds official Twitter as they note Rolen will not be in camp with the Reds. Rolen has left the door open, but he also said he&#8217;s not ready to give a commitment (Twitter link). It has been a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_10713" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 600px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/64/files/2013/02/66504381.jpg"><img src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/64/files/2013/02/66504381-590x422.jpg" alt="" title="MLB: NLDS-San Francisco Giants at Cincinnati Reds" width="590" height="422" class="size-large wp-image-10713" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Oct 11, 2012; Cincinnati, OH, USA; Rolen (27) hits a ground ball to third and reaches on an error in the second inning against the San Francisco Giants in game five of the 2012 NLDS at Great American Ball Park.  (Andrew Weber-USA TODAY Sports)</p></div>
<p>Apparently, the days of <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolensc01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Scott  Rolen</a></strong> in a Reds uniform might be over.  This according to the Reds official Twitter as they note Rolen will not be in camp with the Reds.  Rolen has left the door open, but he also said he&#8217;s not ready to give a commitment (<a href="https://twitter.com/Reds/status/301437872223961088" target="_blank">Twitter link</a>).</p>
<p>It has been a debate for some thime now.  We had heard that Rolen was leaning towrd retirement after last year&#8217;s NLDS.  Then, there was emerging chatter that Rolen may have had a change of heart.  Just the other day, <a href="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2013/02/08/no-word-on-rolen/" target="_blank">John Fay asked Reds CEO Bob Castellini about Rolen</a>.  Mr. Castellini stated that it was up to Rolen.</p>
<p>No one will ever deny what Rolen brought to this team from a leadership perspective as you will see from the following tweets&#8230;</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>“Scott made significant contributions to our recent success, it isn’t a coincidence we made the playoffs in 2 of his 3 full seasons here&#8230;</p>
<p>&mdash; Reds (@Reds) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reds/status/301437609396289536">February 12, 2013</a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&#8230;(Scott) made a huge impact in Cincinnati with his work ethic and leadership on the field, in the clubhouse and in our community.”</p>
<p>&mdash; Reds (@Reds) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reds/status/301437692066025473">February 12, 2013</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>I doubt anyone is shocked that Rolen isn&#8217;t in Goodyear.  With third base being presented to <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/frazito01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Todd  Frazier</a></strong>, it appeared Rolen&#8217;s role on the field would be a diminished one.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that one day we see Rolen grace the halls of Cooperstown.</p>
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		<title>If Cincinnati Reds&#8217; Scott Rolen Retires Now, Can He Make it To the Hall of Fame ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Eastham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Rolen is apparently still sitting on the fence as what he wants to do with his baseball career. Does he want to come back to the Reds, who will welcome him with open arms? Would he like to entertain whatever offer the Los Angeles Dodgers have for his services? He has said openly that if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_10508" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 600px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/64/files/2013/01/6630542.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-10508" title="MLB: Cincinnati Reds at St. Louis Cardinals" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/64/files/2013/01/6630542-590x417.jpg" alt="" width="590" height="417" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">October 2, 2012; St. Louis, MO. USA; Cincinnati Reds third baseman Scott Rolen (27) fields a ground ball hit by St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Allen Craig (not pictured) during the sixth inning at Busch Stadium. The Reds won 3-1. Mandatory Credit: Jeff Curry-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolensc01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Scott Rolen</a> </strong>is apparently still sitting on the fence as what he wants to do with his baseball career. Does he want to come back to the Reds, who will welcome him with open arms? Would he like to entertain whatever offer the Los Angeles Dodgers have for his services? He has said openly that if he plays he wants to stay in Cincinnati.</p>
<p>In my view Rolen is a borderline Hall of Famer. That is as of right now, not another sub-par year to spare. I have mentioned <a href="http://blogredmachine.com/2013/01/17/getting-it-off-my-chest-volume-1-things-that-turn-me-into-grumpy-cat/" target="_blank">here</a> on this site that I hate it when somebody says that a player is a &#8220;future Hall of Famer.&#8221; Yet, here I am asking you if Rolen will someday be enshrined with the baseball legends of days gone by.</p>
<p>He has just logged his 17th year in the annals and provided he quits right now I think he has a shot. But if he takes poet Dylan Thomas&#8217; <a href="http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/do-not-go-gentle-into-that-good-night/" target="_blank">advice</a> and &#8220;Do not go gently into the night,&#8221; I am afraid his plaque will not be made.</p>
<p>I must admit, even though I am a self-proclaimed baseball purist, it is titillating to engage in conversation about marginal players.</p>
<p>As a purist (forget that I am a homer), I would give you a quick two-thumbs down on Rolen. He has nowhere near 3,000 hits. He isn’t close to 500 HR and he doesn&#8217;t even have 1,300 RBI. He currently possesses a lifetime BA of .281 with 316 HR and 1,287 RBI.</p>
<p>He hasn’t won any offensive titles or crowns, he never was an MVP and never led the league in any category. He was, however, the National League Rookie of the Year in 1997 with the Philadelphia Phillies. He beat out <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hernali01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Livan Hernandez</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesan01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Andruw Jones</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/guerrvl01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Vladimir Guerrero</a></strong> to score that hardware.</p>
<p>He was also the winner of the Silver Slugger award in 2002 and was named to six All-Star rosters from three different teams. Not enough to get in the Museum without a ticket, right?</p>
<p>Not so fast there, Mr. Baseball Writer of America.</p>
<p>Should not we take a look at his defense? I mean, were it not for his outstanding glove, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/smithoz01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Ozzie Smith</a></strong> doesn’t belong there much more than I. Yet, there he is and there he shall be.</p>
<p>Rolen does have eight Gold Glove awards, winning the last one in 2010 with the Reds. He trails only <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=robinbr01,robins002bro&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Brooks Robinson</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/schmimi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Mike Schmidt</a></strong> in the number of years receiving that prestigious award. Robby had 16 and Schmidt had 10 and both are firmly entrenched in the Hall of Fame and baseball lore as well.</p>
<p>I am not an avid fan of sabrmetrics, but I will throw one at you for good measure. Rolen ranks fifth all time in total zone runs for third basemen with 150.</p>
<p>Let us recap what we now have. His offense is probably lacking so he can’t go in on that alone. His defense is superb and as good as it gets at the hot corner.</p>
<p>So, offense no and defense yes, yes?</p>
<p>Rolen appeared in two World Series while with the Cardinals. They were swept in 2004 by the Boston Red Sox and won in 2006 against the Detroit Tigers. Postseason is a team effort, but that notwithstanding, he has a ring on his hand.</p>
<p>Let us now scroll through the Hall of Fame roster and see who got there from the hot corner. Let’s just filter out pitchers and only use position players.</p>
<p>Out of 158 players, third basemen are the loneliest lot of all. There are only 14, or 8.8 percent Hall of Fame third basemen. Three of those gentlemen are from the Negro League and data is not available nor dependable. Even catchers, who can get in with .253 averages, have more with 16.</p>
<p>The last third baseman to be voted in (Negro League players notwithstanding) was <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/boggswa01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com" target="_blank">Wade Boggs</a></strong> in 2005.</p>
<p>I designed a table for you to peruse but it was too large for this article. So here is Rolen&#8217;s career in a capsule:</p>
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<th>PLAYER</th>
<th>YRS</th>
<th>G</th>
<th>AB</th>
<th>R</th>
<th>H</th>
<th>HR</th>
<th>RBI</th>
<th>AVG</th>
<th>OBP</th>
<th>SLG</th>
<th>OPS+</th>
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<td>Scott Rolen</td>
<td>17</td>
<td>2038</td>
<td>7398</td>
<td>1211</td>
<td>2077</td>
<td>316</td>
<td>1287</td>
<td>.281</td>
<td>0.364</td>
<td>.490</td>
<td>122</td>
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<p>Let me explain it the best way I can. If you throw Rolen in amongst the Hall of Fame brethren at the hot corner he stands his ground quite well sir.</p>
<p>With him in and the Negro League guys out you have a melting pot of 12 players. In BA and OBP Rolen is 9th out of 12. He comes in 3rd in SLG, 5th in OPS+, 4th in HR, 6th in RBI and 8th in HITS.</p>
<p>To summarize he is above the average mark in HR, RBI, SLG and OPS+. He looks very good all of a sudden.</p>
<p>The timing is right, wouldn’t you think?</p>
<p>You vote your way and I will vote mine. I must give him a big thumbs UP!</p>
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		<title>The Scott Rolen &#8216;Spot&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Engbloom</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Rolen would be welcome back to the Cincinnati Reds. What he has provided for the Reds does go far beyond what his numbers indicate. As far as playing time, it&#8217;s a safe bet his role would be different from what he has filled in the past. In fact, according to John Fay, it&#8217;s a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolensc01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Scott  Rolen</a></strong> would be welcome back to the Cincinnati Reds.  What he has provided for the Reds does go far beyond what his numbers indicate.  As far as playing time, it&#8217;s a safe bet his role would be different from what he has filled in the past.  In fact, <a href="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2012/12/13/jocketty-on-the-signing-rolens-future-et-al/" target="_blank">according to John Fay</a>, it&#8217;s a given.  Here&#8217;s what Reds GM Walt Jocketty told Fay regarding a potential Rolen return.</p>
<blockquote><p>“I think you have to at least consider it. At the end of the season, I told him if he did come back it would be in a different role. But he’s been so important to our success the last couple of years. He’s been an instrumental part of our club. If he wants to play, we have to see if we can work something out to his satisfaction as well as ours.”</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s even more of a dilemma now with the signing of <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hannaja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Jack  Hannahan</a></strong> and the <a href="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2012/12/14/reds-add-assistant-hitting-coach/" target="_blank">hiring of Ronnie Ortegon as the Reds assistant hitting coach</a>, a role some feel would have been perfect for Rolen.  After the signings and deals, the Reds roster is a bit tight.</p>
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<td>Votto</td>
<td>Cueto</td>
<td>Broxton</td>
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<td>Arroyo</td>
<td>Simon</td>
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<td>Bruce</td>
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<p>That&#8217;s 28 players&#8230;for 25 spots.  Exactly where could the Reds even find a spot for Rolen?  Even if I remove <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/masseni01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Nick  Masset</a></strong> from this list (which is quite possible since he is recovering from surgery and hopes to be throwing off a mound by Spring Training), that still leaves 27 for 25&#8230;and that &#8220;move&#8221; does <em>not</em> free up a bench position.</p>
<p>You have to remove one of the bench players&#8230;and who would that be?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t be <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mesorde01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Devin  Mesoraco</a></strong> as he&#8217;s the backup catcher (on paper, that is).  Can&#8217;t be <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/heisech01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Chris  Heisey</a></strong> as he plays all three outfield positions and looks to see an increased defensive role for 2013.  Can&#8217;t be Hannahan.  Why give a guy a two-year deal (or any deal) if this is the case?</p>
<p>That leaves two: <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/paulxa01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Xavier  Paul</a></strong> or <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/donalja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Jason  Donald</a></strong>&#8230;and I don&#8217;t care for the prospects of not having either on the 25-man.  Paul might not be the choice as Dusty loves having multiple lefty bats at his disposal.  With Paul and Hannahan, Dusty has that.  Donald has even more defensive flexibility than Paul, Hannahan and Heisey as he can play multiple infield <em>and</em> outfield positions.  Well, he did last season.</p>
<p>In other words, you&#8217;ve already constructed a bench that is armed with two lefty bats and with the exception of Mesoraco, has extreme defensive flexibility.  Kind of reminds me a little bit of what Joe Maddon has in Tampa.  Not on that level, but it&#8217;s building.</p>
<p>Even with Donald posting a triple slash of .202/.246/.282 last season, it is still an overall offensive upgrade over <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valdewi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Wilson  Valdez</a></strong> (.206/.236/.227) and <strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cairomi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&#038;utm_source=direct&#038;utm_medium=linker-blogredmachine.com">Miguel  Cairo</a></strong> (.187/.212/.280).  With Rolen being limited to only one defensive position, how can this be a fit on this roster?</p>
<p>I honestly can&#8217;t see it, can you?</p>
<p>And it pains me to have that as my answer.</p>
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