By Jesse Borek - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:02 pm
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Where Will the Reds Finish in 2014?
Let’s find out where the fans think the Reds will wind up at the conclusion of this season.
Topics: Cincinnati Reds
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Jesse is a Journalism and Mass Communication major at Arizona State University. He is the editor at both BlogRedMachine.com and HeatWaved.com here at Fansided. You can find him on Twitter @JesseABorek.
Without Votto batting in the 2 hole and Jocketty failing to get a 3 hole bopper, the Reds will not reach the playoffs.
That’s silly. There are a dozen reasons why the Reds could miss the playoffs, but Votto batting 3rd just isn’t one of them.
That is your opinion, but we still need Votto to bat in back of Hamilton to insure he succeeds. Need a lefty at the plate for better protection. That leaves the 3 hole. What we have now is Phillips filling that hole. If Price has Phillips in the two hole it makes it much easier to throw him out. When you have a hitter that leads the league in obp and walks, hits .300 and hits to all fields, that to me is a prototype 2 hole hitter.
I have no issue with batting Votto 2nd. But your statement over-simplifies a complex recipe for success. There are 24 other variables in play here, so tying everything to a single move is a bit extreme and melodramatic. Making the post-season has far more to do with how well Ludwick, Frazier and Cozart hit than whether Votto hits 2nd or 3rd.
Good points of whic I am fully aware. Players like Fraxier, Cozart and Mesoraco have to produce for the Reds to make a run.But they are capable. I’m referring to Votto as a prototype 2 hole hitter. Even if Price hits him second (which I doubt) they still would need a bopper for the 3 hole. So with another Jockertty gaffe in not getting this bopper, Votto must bat 3rd, which I think in unfortunate.
Beeker, could get to your reply. but this all has to do with Jocketty’s overpayment in last years salaries, Broxton, Marshall, Phillips and even Hannarahan. He screwed up so bad it is coming back to haunt him this year. There was no reason he could not have traded Bailey or Chapman or Phillips to even off the money.
Beeker, your right. I just don’t believe Ludwick will ever duplicate what he did two years ago. Too old, I just feel that the Reds would score more runs withVotto in the 2 hole to protect Hamilton.
That bopper could already be there in Ludwick. He hit .309/.379/.576 from June 16-Oct 3, 2012. Will he do that again in 2014? I have no idea. If he does, that’s your guy. Clearly Jocketty is counting on him to repeat.
I will admit full confusion with the Broxton and Hannahan contracts. We can lament them, but we cannot change them. My guess is that after seeing how things play out in April and May, Jocketty will look to fill the holes through a trade, using either Chapman or Bailey as bargaining chips.
Oh, and where is this “3 hole bopper” coming from? Ludwick is making $8.5M this year. He isn’t going anywhere. Are you sending down Hamilton to make room for this guy? Benching Frazier? Who are you getting and how are you going to pay him?
I saw this quote from Bryan Price in an ESPN article about his plan to bat Jay Bruce 4th against RH starters, and I couldn’t help getting just a little more anxious for the baseball season to begin:
“My theory is, if we’re thinking a lot about innings 7-8, maybe we’re not focusing enough on 1-6,” Price said. “If we deliver the knockout blow early, we don’t have to worry too much about the matchup lefty [reliever] being in the ballgame.”Source: http://espn.go.com/blog/spring-training/post/_/id/1519/bruce-to-move-up-in-reds-order
I knew I liked Price. I wasn’t a Dusty-hater, but this is one page from his playbook that I am glad to see get thrown in the fire.
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