Apr 1, 2013; Cincinnati, OH, USA; Cincinnati Reds general manager Walt Jocketty and manager Dusty Baker (12) talk during batting practice against the Los Angeles Angels at Great American Ball Park. Mandatory Credit: Frank Victores-US PRESSWIRE

No Deals for August Either?


Just as was the case at the non-waiver trade deadline, the Cincinnati Reds made no deals as the month of August grew to a close of business. Shouldn’t be a huge shock.

What adds to some fans frustration? Consider what division rivals St. Louis and Pittsburgh have done this month.

Yesterday, in an effort to bolster its bullpen, the Redbirds acquired John Axford from the Milwaukee Brewers (didn’t see that one coming) in exchange for the PTBNL. A few days ago, the Pirates made a deal with the New York Mets. The Pirates landed outfielder Marlon Byrd and catcher John Buck. Going to the Big Apple were minor leaguer Dilson Herrera and a PTBNL which was Vic Black, who has appeared in 3 games as a Pirate.

The bombshell dropped a while ago when FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal tweeted that the Pirates were to get Justin Morneau from the Minnesota Twins. Outfielder Alex Presley would be headed to the Twin Cities in the deal. The deal was confirmed on Twitter by Travis Sawchik of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

The Pirates had also made a couple of minor moves during this month, but those players acquired certainly don’t jump out at you like Byrd and Morneau. Another Canadian first baseman within the division…

And in Cincinnati, we wait…for September call-ups?

Appears so.

I reiterate that there’s a level of frustration in all of this for Reds fans. You see you two closest competitors making moves, but your beloved Redlegs appear dormant.

I’m not defending Walt here, but he did state last month that he felt the asking price for certain players in which the Reds had interest had a high price tag. A price he wasn’t willing to pay.

Could that have been the roadblock for August as well? Or was there the payroll issues at hand as well? I addressed the payroll issue last month. And this perceived dormancy does not mean that there wasn’t any effort.

I take this to the fans. Of those the players that have been traded this month, was there one that you felt would have been able to help the Reds?

Let us know who and why within out comments section below.

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  • Josh Bresser

    The Pirates, who are ahead of the Reds, go out and get Buck, Byrd, and Morneau while the Reds do nothing.

    I’ve completely lost any respect that I had for Jocketty. Keeping guys like Izturis, Ondrusek, Hannahan, etc. on the roster without bothering to make even the most minor of moves is just disgusting.

    Only 3 teams haven’t made a trade since the end of July. The Reds are the only team over .500 (and the only one in a “pennant race”) on that list.

    Just terrible.

    • http://blogredmachine.com/ Steve O’Red

      Would Byrd, Buck or Morneau have made sense for the Reds? Just because Pittsburgh got them doesn;t mean the Reds had any degree of interest in any of them. Only Byrd would have been a logical choice to pursue. With Ludwick’s return, acquiring Byrd was far less likely had Ludwick not returned this season.

      I said during spring that Izturis had no business making this roster. None.

      Hannahan’s overall numbers look lame, but as a starter, they aren’t bad especially considering those in that role last season.

      • Josh Bresser

        Byrd has been really good for the Mets this year. He is a huge upgrade for the Pirates.

        Think of it this way. If Walt blocks the Byrd deal without the intention of actually trading for him, then either A) The Mets pull him off of waivers or B) The Mets force him on the Reds for a cost of a whopping 130k, no prospects or anything. 130k is chump change in the MLB, especially for a player as good as Byrd has been this year.

        Even if Byrd didn’t start in LF for us (which, with how bad Ludwick has been, why wouldn’t he?) he still is a huge upgrade for the bench. More importantly, though, for that tiny sum, it stops the Pirates from making a huge upgrade (they essentially replaced Gaby Sanchez’s with Byrd’s at the time–with Jones permanently moving to 1B. Take a look at the difference in those numbers. Even more extreme now that Morneau is in the equation instead of Jones.) The Pirates’ bench is scary good now- and has 1-2 players on it that I’m not sure are worse than guys starting for the Reds.

        I don’t blame Jocketty for not blocking Buck and Morneau, though. Morneau will probably have an impact, but at 2 million for the rest of the year, not blocking him makes sense. Same story with Buck.

  • Brian

    I have to admire the conviction of Walt to not overpay for players despite the pressure, but at a certain point – I mean… Let’s shake things up a bit, you know?

    Also, just wanted to say to Josh and Steve that I thought your comments were very well thought out and insightful so thanks for sharing.

    Curious to see what happens next…
    Brian @ http://busamcincinnati.com/

    • http://blogredmachine.com/ Steve O’Red

      Thanks, Brian.

      Remember last year when the Reds acquired Broxton? A lot was made about what the Reds gave up then: a pair of top 10 prospects. Goes to your point about overpaying.